Joe - Could we get a legal view on the use of thermal imaging devices during home inspections. A number of guys are touting the relative blindness of those not using them in an effort to promote their new "x-ray vision."
“My opinion? As with any extra-sensory equipment, from electronic induction moisture meters to gas sensors, this technology is subject to many variables such as quality, on-site conditions and, last but not least, the ability of the inspector to accurately interpret the data. Further, I know of no precedent that requires a seller to act on these findings by allowing invasive follow up deconstruction to verify inside walls what was inferred by the inspector's report.
“Lastly, what added dimension of legal liability does the use of these devices open up to the home inspector?”
Many home inspectors have added thermal imaging to their menu of services in recent years in an effort to increase revenue in the wake of an inspection market devastated by the implosion of the underlying residential real estate market. This development has been fueled by the precipitous decline in the price of thermal imaging cameras, a circumstance that has, itself, engendered a technological arms race among home inspectors that has tended to undermine the advantage and market hegemony of the early adopters and will, almost certainly, through increased supply and competition, erode the ability of practitioners to maintain pricing discipline.
In the Law and Disorder Seminar, one of the skills that I encourage home inspectors to acquire is the ability to manage the expectations of their clients as to what they can reasonably expect to learn about a property from a limited, non-invasive, visual inspection. Most home buyers have absolutely no idea what a home inspection entails and to the extent that they do have an idea, it is generally unrealistic. I sometimes think that some of them believe that you are not only going to be able to detect everything that is currently wrong with the property but also everything that has ever been wrong with it and everything that ever will be wrong with it.
And that is one problem that I anticipate that the widespread adoption of thermal imaging by home inspectors is going to exacerbate. People’s already unrealistic expectations will become more so, especially if they have read some of the wildly exaggerated claims made about thermal imaging on many inspectors’ websites.
I do not believe that thermal imaging, in and of itself, will increase an inspector’s liability to a buyer, however. It is still, after all, a limited, non-invasive, visual inspection that is being conducted. If the thermal imaging reveals a reportable issue, take a photo of it and report it.
I can, however, foresee potential issues with a seller if an inaccurate interpretation of the data were to induce a buyer to abrogate an Agreement of Sale. Or if the seller does do verification deconstruction on the basis of a false positive.
The real problem that I foresee with a widespread adoption of thermal imaging by home inspectors is mission creep. Is thermal imaging going to become the new normal in home inspections? And are you going to be able to charge more for it, if everyone is doing it?
"Most home buyers have absolutely no idea what a home inspection entails and to the extent that they do have an idea, it is generally unrealistic. I sometimes think that some of them believe that you are not only going to be able to detect everything that is currently wrong with the property but also everything that has ever been wrong with it and everything that ever will be wrong with it."
ReplyDeleteGreat point. We have gone to great lengths to set those expectations in our contract, in or FAQ's and in the report itself. Inspectors who use the term "X-Ray vision" are really setting themselves up.
I have seen several Inspections I have Performed that have already been Inspected by someone using "Thermal Imagining" that it appears they spent their time doing that instead of the Basics, on two such "re-inspections" they missed Breaker sizes, reversed polarity wiring, etc...I purchased a Digital Foundation Level But only use it where I find a area that feels bad and I am concerned with, unless they are Specifically paying me for a "Foundation Variance" Inspection !
ReplyDeleteIt is inevitable in any industry that "mission creep" will occur. Inspectors are still competing for business and need to find the latest edge to gain market share. As new technologies evolve, they will be adopted by some buisnesses.
ReplyDeleteThere is going to be problems with the use of IR's with out any trainning & knowning when to use them & not to use them.
ReplyDeleteAlso is your E&O going to cover you in the event of a claim?
I would strongly advise to obtain training and get a PIA for this service.
Your going to spend thousands of dollars which you should get paid for.
Interesting points and comments to think about. My company does not use Thermal Imaging Devices. I do use moisture meters if I suspect that a problem may exist, or if there are visible water stains on ceilings, walls or floors. Again, I say VISIBLE. I spend anywhere between four to six hours performing an inspection. The very first sentance in my contract says: "This is our report of a non-invasive (non-destructive) visual inspection only of the readily accessible areas of the building". In my fourteen years as an inspector, I have learned that the more equipment that is used, the more liability is open. Even the use of electronic moisture meters can get you in trouble if the client does not fully understand that an inspection is not intended to be technically exhaustive, (and this should be stated in your contract). For example: You can use you moisture meters to check basement walls and find no significant readings, just normal levels. But lets say you fail to detect a significant problem in a closet, bedroom etc, and a moisture problem exists. The client's attorney could tell the judge that the inspector failed to report the moisture entering the closet ceiling. Normally a buyer who attends the inspection gets to know, like and trust the inspector. But if you miss something, it is usually the buyer's family, friends or coworkers that convinces them to go after the inspector.
ReplyDeleteI could go on and on, but I don't want to write a novel.
Quoted from above: "There is going to be problems with the use of IR's with out any trainning & knowning when to use them & not to use them.
ReplyDeleteAlso is your E&O going to cover you in the event of a claim?
I would strongly advise to obtain training and get a PIA for this service.
Your going to spend thousands of dollars which you should get paid for."
The nattering nabobs of negativism have spouted this pap for years. It hasn't happened yet and I don't expect it to. We've been using TIC's routinely on our inspections for several years and it's definitely given us a leg up on our competition. It also opened up an entire sub-specialty (moisture intrusion detection) to us that has been most remunerative.
We use it for what it is. A qualitative tool that needs to be backed up with corroborative information. We've never pretended that it's magic or that it can see through walls. We've never charged extra for bringing it out on a job.
I see a lot of skewed thinking in inspectors that is reflected in the comment I quoted at the top of this post. In the last few years the number of licensed Illinois inspectors has dropped by 40%. During that time our workload has easily doubled. You do the math!
purchasing an IR camera without the proper education is just looking for trouble , the proper interpretation of the anomalies is what makes IR a good tool a benefit to your client,but unfortunately some do this purchase the tool thinking they will figure it out as they go along not going to happen folks, and now with the recent news about Home Depot renting IR cameras to the public at large , who know what will happen.
ReplyDeleteCustomers love the comfort they get from the use of infrared imaging and they are willing to pay for it. Imagine if doctors rejected new diaognostic equipment as readily as home inspectors do! Time and technology will advance with or without us, I prefer to move forward.
ReplyDeleteWow. Excellent points by all. I currently do not offer IRC inspections due to some of the points above. However, Wally made a great point and now I will rethink it. I dont want to be left behind, I want to lead the pack! . . . a lot to consider!
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ReplyDeleteI think your comments are spot-on...as usual. I use a Thermal Imaging Camera as another tool at an inspection to speed the process, I don't put pictures in a report of a suspect area-location with a comment such as "Further Evaluation Needed" I use what ever instruments are necessary to determine what an issue might be, and then tell the client to call who ever is a specialist in that trade to fix it, don't further evaluate it, I did that already, and I stand behind my findings 110%.
I see some new Spectors advertising some really crazy stuff on their websites, everything from spotting Deer to X-Ray Vision...soon they'll be calling their insurance company or an attorney to get them out of the mess they've gotten then selves into.
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ReplyDeleteI like how you portray inspection services as more than a functional thing. You really can get a ton of value out of an inspection, especially infrared inspections. They can literally "look into" things you want to check out closer. It's really great.
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Very insightful article on thermal imaging devices! Thank you very much for sharing it! This gives me a lot to think about when I decide whether or not to buy a thermal imaging camera later this month.
ReplyDeleteFor those interested in buying a thermal imaging camera, a great website to check out is Diamond Technical Surveys.
Thermal imaging cameras offer a great help in the exact scaling of contour maps. It is a technology that helps engineers sense diverse temperature zones on a site. Apart from the arena of building construction, thermal imaging technology proves useful in various industrial and mechanical processes, including security, intelligence, automation, gas detection, firefighting, etc.
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ReplyDeleteHow about the moral/legal consequences of Thermal imaging Camera technologies...?
Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your blog with more information? It is extremely helpful for me.
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